A change of regime in Tehran would be laudable. As you point out, Persia has contributed mightily to the advance of civilization. The young and urban Iranians are generally smart, educated, and favor democracy and progress; they know that Britain and America thwarted the democracy and progress their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents achieved 75 years ago: we stole their futures. So they might not fully appreciate our efforts to bomb them into submission. Bombing civilians generally hardens resolve, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, in Britain, Germany, Vietnam, France, Russia, etc. (We can all think of an exception.)
Netanyahu has actually been relatively selective in this campaign, and has gone out of his way to assure Iranians that Israel has no beef with them, only the regime and weapons. Trump, I think, does not care a bit about any lives other than his own (and Ivanka's). He'll drop those MOPs soon, I think. Regime change may be a consequence; so might a much wider war.
We could have avoided all this if Trump had not torn up the deal we had in place in Trump 1.0.
The law of unintended consequences will raise its ugly head again. 9/11 was a shock and the popular response of war in Iraq and Afghanistan (even though the suicide bombers were largely Saudi) meant economic disruption and trillions of dollars wasted. Like the Vietnam war it led to inflation and self-recrimination. Presidents like to start foreign conflicts when they want to distract the public. Wilson and México, Reagan and Grenada, H W Bush and Iraq, Clinton and the Balkans. Trump will definitely attack Iran and the ill will that generates could see Pakistan transfer an Islamic Bomb to Iran. Who needs enrichment when you have fanatical friends?
I see nothing unusual in terms of policy or potential consequences about policies pursued by Trump led Republicans. I need to qualify that statement a bit. The policies are not specific to Trump but seem to be part of the Republican Party DNA - unstable economies, adding to large federal deficits, fault finding of those who are not white or male, unconstitutional actions and laws, and war mongering. Fortunately I have been able to live with the consequences over the years but I can only hope my grandchildren will be able to as well.
You write that "Iran has made trouble for its Arab neighbors for decades." Can you be specific? There has been Shia-Sunni tension, but when did Iran invade an Arab country or try to overthrow its government? On the other hand, with U.S. encouragement and military assistance, Iraq invaded Iran in 1980. Iran has supported groups--Hezbollah, Hamas--that resist Israel's abominable treatment of the Palestinians. That doesn't match your claim. Did you simply succumb to the general U.S. hostility toward Iran, which dates back to the revolution against the tyranny of the Shah, our man in the Middle East.
"Trump is already celebrating, and why not? It's going to be easy."
Trump keeps his promises. He lowered prices and ended the wars in Ukraine and Gaza on day one, so taking over Iran will be a piece of cake. Just as in Iraq, Iranians will be throwing flowers at our troops' feet as they march into Tehran – another “Mission Accomplished.”
When Trump says “we,” I believe he’s using the “royal we,” as in “l'état, c'est moi.”
The MAGAT Madman is completely unpredictable now. His dementia is exacerbated by his insanity. On any given day he might go off the rails on a whim. If he does, we might get lucky and have a successful retaliation against him personally.
Don't despair all ye who enter here. Meanwhile, in Oregon we're paying for a drag show in the House of Representatives. No Kings for Democrats but plenty of freaks, freeloaders and criminals welcome.
A change of regime in Tehran would be laudable. As you point out, Persia has contributed mightily to the advance of civilization. The young and urban Iranians are generally smart, educated, and favor democracy and progress; they know that Britain and America thwarted the democracy and progress their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents achieved 75 years ago: we stole their futures. So they might not fully appreciate our efforts to bomb them into submission. Bombing civilians generally hardens resolve, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, in Britain, Germany, Vietnam, France, Russia, etc. (We can all think of an exception.)
Netanyahu has actually been relatively selective in this campaign, and has gone out of his way to assure Iranians that Israel has no beef with them, only the regime and weapons. Trump, I think, does not care a bit about any lives other than his own (and Ivanka's). He'll drop those MOPs soon, I think. Regime change may be a consequence; so might a much wider war.
We could have avoided all this if Trump had not torn up the deal we had in place in Trump 1.0.
The law of unintended consequences will raise its ugly head again. 9/11 was a shock and the popular response of war in Iraq and Afghanistan (even though the suicide bombers were largely Saudi) meant economic disruption and trillions of dollars wasted. Like the Vietnam war it led to inflation and self-recrimination. Presidents like to start foreign conflicts when they want to distract the public. Wilson and México, Reagan and Grenada, H W Bush and Iraq, Clinton and the Balkans. Trump will definitely attack Iran and the ill will that generates could see Pakistan transfer an Islamic Bomb to Iran. Who needs enrichment when you have fanatical friends?
I see nothing unusual in terms of policy or potential consequences about policies pursued by Trump led Republicans. I need to qualify that statement a bit. The policies are not specific to Trump but seem to be part of the Republican Party DNA - unstable economies, adding to large federal deficits, fault finding of those who are not white or male, unconstitutional actions and laws, and war mongering. Fortunately I have been able to live with the consequences over the years but I can only hope my grandchildren will be able to as well.
You write that "Iran has made trouble for its Arab neighbors for decades." Can you be specific? There has been Shia-Sunni tension, but when did Iran invade an Arab country or try to overthrow its government? On the other hand, with U.S. encouragement and military assistance, Iraq invaded Iran in 1980. Iran has supported groups--Hezbollah, Hamas--that resist Israel's abominable treatment of the Palestinians. That doesn't match your claim. Did you simply succumb to the general U.S. hostility toward Iran, which dates back to the revolution against the tyranny of the Shah, our man in the Middle East.
"Trump is already celebrating, and why not? It's going to be easy."
Trump keeps his promises. He lowered prices and ended the wars in Ukraine and Gaza on day one, so taking over Iran will be a piece of cake. Just as in Iraq, Iranians will be throwing flowers at our troops' feet as they march into Tehran – another “Mission Accomplished.”
When Trump says “we,” I believe he’s using the “royal we,” as in “l'état, c'est moi.”
LMFAO
The MAGAT Madman is completely unpredictable now. His dementia is exacerbated by his insanity. On any given day he might go off the rails on a whim. If he does, we might get lucky and have a successful retaliation against him personally.
Don't despair all ye who enter here. Meanwhile, in Oregon we're paying for a drag show in the House of Representatives. No Kings for Democrats but plenty of freaks, freeloaders and criminals welcome.